Apologies in advance for my ignorance. I’ve never made it to the U.K. despite 3/4 of my DNA coming from those isles.
I’m redoing/updating a supporters list and I’ve run into something I’ve no answer to….
99% of the addresses I’m given say “United Kingdom”. Now, and again forgive me, I’ve always thought of the U.K. as England, Ireland, and Scotland. Likewise I call the people from there as English (or British), Irish, or Scottish. As an aside, a family member has always insisted we are Welsh not English based on the origin of our surname…
So, when filing out my list and I know “United Kingdom” is right for a mailing/billing address but it doesn’t feel right to me. Thus, I’ve been looking up the towns I don’t know to see which of the 3 aforementioned areas they are from and switch the address accordingly.
Anyway, can someone from the British Isles (or United Kingdom?) please straighten me out?
***EDIT – 12FEB2021
After much reading and input I’ve come to my own conclusions. Thanks everyone for the feedback and patience with my ignorance. Here are some of my notes:
“The census held throughout the UK in 2011 recorded information on the chosen national identity of each respondent. A separate census was carried out for each of England and Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. The results clearly show that in no part of the UK do the majority of the population self-identify as British, but as English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish etc.”
“Do not enforce uniformity
It is not possible to create a uniforming guideline, when such strong disagreement exists on the relative importance of the labels.
Re-labelling nationalities on grounds of consistency—making every UK citizen “British”, or converting each of those labelled “British” into their constituent nationalities—is strongly discouraged. Such imposed uniformity cannot, in any case, be sustained.”
“Irish nationality law is contained in the provisions of the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts 1956 to 2004 and in the relevant provisions of the Irish Constitution. A person may be an Irish citizen through birth, descent, marriage to an Irish citizen or through naturalisation. The law grants citizenship to individuals born in Northern Ireland under the same conditions as those born in the Republic of Ireland.”
OK, so now I’m thinking they view “Irish is Irish” but then I read this:
What is the cultural difference between the Irish and the Northern Irish?
So I’m still confused on this.
“Some persons opted “to combine both identities” as “they felt Scottish or Welsh, but held a British passport and were therefore British”, whereas others saw themselves as exclusively Scottish or exclusively Welsh and “felt quite divorced from the British, whom they saw as the English”. Commentators have described this latter phenomenon as “nationalism”, a rejection of British identity because some Scots and Welsh interpret it as “cultural imperialism imposed” upon the United Kingdom by “English ruling elites”, or else a response to a historical misappropriation of equating the word “English” with “British”, which has “brought about a desire among Scots, Welsh and Irish to learn more about their heritage and distinguish themselves from the broader British identity“.
What are the National identities of the people living in Britain?
“Most white people born in Great Britain, although British citizens, do not regard themselves as British and prefer to state their national identity as English, Scottish or Welsh. People born in England are called English or British and can say that they live in England, Britain and/or the UK. Most people in England tend to say they are British rather than English.”
England versus Great Britain versus United Kingdom
“England, Scotland, and Wales are three constituent countries united under one state, the United Kingdom, on the island of Great Britain. The United Kingdom is the three countries of Great Britain plus the country of Northern Ireland.”
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The initial goal of all this was to list the town/cities of where people were from in a manner that everyone could relate to. It then became a quest for understanding on my part.
Based on the information I get I am inclined to do:
Section: United Kingdom
Listing: Town, England/Ireland/Wales/Scotland (to be best of my ability)
IF I get a complete address it looks like this:
James, Bond, Shelley Drive, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, LN2 4TD, United Kingdom Lincoln Lincolnshire United Kingdom GB
William, Wallace, Chatcart Road, GLASGOW, G42 0DY, United Kingdom GLASGOW United Kingdom GB
Paul David Hewson, Coolock Ln, Santry, Dublin 9, D09WD54, Ireland Santry DUBLIN 9 Ireland IE
For Northern Ireland:
Vivian Patrick Campbell, Main Street, Pomeroy, Dungannon, Tyrone, BT702QP, United Kingdom Dungannon Tyrone United Kingdom GB
Bartholomew, Roberts, Thomas Cres, North Cornelly, Bridgend, Bridgend, CF33 4HT, United Kingdom Bridgend Bridgend United Kingdom GB
Contrast with an address for here:
Robert Hepler Lowe, 931 Thomas Jefferson Pkwy, Charlottesville, VA 22902
Here is a table with the values minus the street address:
|Brighton||East Sussex||United Kingdom||GB|
|Chichester||West Sussex||United Kingdom||GB|
|Glasgow||South Lanarkshire||United Kingdom||GB|
|HASWELL,||COUNTY DURHAM||United Kingdom||GB|
|Hove||East Sussex||United Kingdom||GB|
|Isle Of Bute||United Kingdom||GB|
|New Malden||Surrey||United Kingdom||GB|
|New Malden||N/A||United Kingdom||GB|
|Wetherby||West Yorkshire||United Kingdom||GB|
|Worthing||West Sussex||United Kingdom||GB|